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Howdy c5 forum,
I have a small (5 page) website using simple permissions model. I would like to allow someone else to edit some pages, but not to access several items in the dashboard.
I have created a new 'Site Editors' group, and using the simple permissions model have achieved near perfection.
See screenshot - When the user opens the dashboard they are presented with a link to "News - Learn about your site and concrete5"
How can I remove that link/text from the dashboard screen?
Many Thanks
Paul
I have a small (5 page) website using simple permissions model. I would like to allow someone else to edit some pages, but not to access several items in the dashboard.
I have created a new 'Site Editors' group, and using the simple permissions model have achieved near perfection.
See screenshot - When the user opens the dashboard they are presented with a link to "News - Learn about your site and concrete5"
How can I remove that link/text from the dashboard screen?
Many Thanks
Paul
Sounds like a great idea, but I cannot see a page named 'news' under 'dashboard. See screenshot. This is a 5.5.1 install.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
I'm actually having the same problem. For some reason its missing in the sitemap...
I've not figured it yet!
Permissions are jacked up in 5.5.1 I'd just wait till April when 5.5.2 comes out. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. Either way, I'm staying away from permissions until then.
You will need to go to your the full sitemap and locate the dashboard section. Click on the small plus sign to expand the group and at the very bottom there will be another page called dashboard. this is the page that you will need to change the read permissions on to disable the link text. I have attached pictures take at look at them it you need to. And the permissions are not jacked.
Danny
Danny
Hate to say it and I'm not trying to be a jerk but I did exactly this and it didn't work. Permissions aren't working at all for me. I actually re-did my site from scratch to have a fresh database install because permissions were screwy with quite a few of my users.
I ended up not putting permissions on the website because every time I did it would screw something else up almost like a snowball effect.
Could be just me, I've had been known to do some quirky things before but I have been talk to people in the irc that say they are getting some funky issues with permissions in 5.5.1 as well. Apparently I'm not the only one.
I ended up not putting permissions on the website because every time I did it would screw something else up almost like a snowball effect.
Could be just me, I've had been known to do some quirky things before but I have been talk to people in the irc that say they are getting some funky issues with permissions in 5.5.1 as well. Apparently I'm not the only one.
Totally not trying to be a jerk either of course...
Just sayin, We rely on advanced permissions for this site, and many
other big important projects that have worked a-okay #1 great since
2003 when concrete cms was commercial and didn't have simple
permissions at all.
Is it the best looking UI? No. Is it the most flexible system? No. Are
there some details to it that are perhaps a bit vague? (like what does
"admin" mean mean at a page level) Sure.
Are they broken in some way that someone else reading this thread who
is depending on them and isn't having the issues your running into?
Nope.
They do what they do just fine.
If there's some bug in the bug tracker I'm missing, by all means point
me to it. Perhaps we're talking about different levels of detail here.
Of course I agree that the new advanced permissions system is awesome.
I just need to be very careful about folks throwing around works like
broken or "jacked up".
It's simply not the case, and quite likely an issue with the way
you're using them, caching, how page types and actual page instances
work - who knows. They're a complicated beast that I'm sure you could
get to do some quirky things while hanging out in IRC. That doesn't
mean that any enterprise client who is relying on them should be
worried.
They work just fine for me and Andrew, and no one has ever shown me
something different.
Case in point, as I understand it this person is asking about the News
link from the dashboard drop down. That link doesn't look to the
permissions of the news page to be displayed, its just hard coded to
be part of the drop down. There's reasons for doing that or not doing
that, but its not just randomly ignoring permissions - which your
reply implies.
Again, totally not trying to be a dick, I'm just concerned about what
someone else might think reading your post.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
Just sayin, We rely on advanced permissions for this site, and many
other big important projects that have worked a-okay #1 great since
2003 when concrete cms was commercial and didn't have simple
permissions at all.
Is it the best looking UI? No. Is it the most flexible system? No. Are
there some details to it that are perhaps a bit vague? (like what does
"admin" mean mean at a page level) Sure.
Are they broken in some way that someone else reading this thread who
is depending on them and isn't having the issues your running into?
Nope.
They do what they do just fine.
If there's some bug in the bug tracker I'm missing, by all means point
me to it. Perhaps we're talking about different levels of detail here.
Of course I agree that the new advanced permissions system is awesome.
I just need to be very careful about folks throwing around works like
broken or "jacked up".
It's simply not the case, and quite likely an issue with the way
you're using them, caching, how page types and actual page instances
work - who knows. They're a complicated beast that I'm sure you could
get to do some quirky things while hanging out in IRC. That doesn't
mean that any enterprise client who is relying on them should be
worried.
They work just fine for me and Andrew, and no one has ever shown me
something different.
Case in point, as I understand it this person is asking about the News
link from the dashboard drop down. That link doesn't look to the
permissions of the news page to be displayed, its just hard coded to
be part of the drop down. There's reasons for doing that or not doing
that, but its not just randomly ignoring permissions - which your
reply implies.
Again, totally not trying to be a dick, I'm just concerned about what
someone else might think reading your post.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
"How can I remove that link/text from the dashboard screen?"
Franz: Are you saying
1. its hard-coded this way for a reason and unlikely to change, ie if I want this change then go alter the core files myself
OR
2. enabled advanced permissions on 5.5.1 and it'll work
OR
3. wait for 5.5.2 (the new awesome permissions system) and I'll be able to achieve this without altering core files or turning the news links off for all users?
I stuck with simple permissions as I though I was trying to do something erh... simple
Franz: Are you saying
1. its hard-coded this way for a reason and unlikely to change, ie if I want this change then go alter the core files myself
OR
2. enabled advanced permissions on 5.5.1 and it'll work
OR
3. wait for 5.5.2 (the new awesome permissions system) and I'll be able to achieve this without altering core files or turning the news links off for all users?
I stuck with simple permissions as I though I was trying to do something erh... simple
It is hard coded today for performance and "getting it out the door" reasons.
You should explore the whitelabeling stuff to customize what it shows,
or yeah just hack it out if you don't need it.
I don't know if advanced permissions will be in 5.2.2 or a subsequent version.
Regardless there is nothing in advanced permissions that would impact
that at the moment. We will very likely revisit the way that dashboard
drop down is choosing what to display at some point in the not too
distant future.
Advanced permissions work a-okay today. Saying they are jacked because
the news items in the drop down doesn't honor them is akin to saying
there's something wrong with the salt in a restaurant because you
don't have enough of it on your dish. The salt is fine. We just didn't
use it there.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
You should explore the whitelabeling stuff to customize what it shows,
or yeah just hack it out if you don't need it.
I don't know if advanced permissions will be in 5.2.2 or a subsequent version.
Regardless there is nothing in advanced permissions that would impact
that at the moment. We will very likely revisit the way that dashboard
drop down is choosing what to display at some point in the not too
distant future.
Advanced permissions work a-okay today. Saying they are jacked because
the news items in the drop down doesn't honor them is akin to saying
there's something wrong with the salt in a restaurant because you
don't have enough of it on your dish. The salt is fine. We just didn't
use it there.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
Woah, wasn't trying to get into anything. I'll keep my thoughts to myself and the peeps in IRC. Was just trying to help out a fellow member of the community.
All I'm saying is I re-did advanced permissions 3 times and re-did a fresh database install and re-entered content into my site 3 times because something wasn't working right. According to CC3381 I must not know the in's and out's to advanced permissions since I've been having such a problem. I respect that, kind of.
I've used advanced permissions since 08 and some funky things were going on, I would have put in a bug report but I didn't know what was happening specifically to do that.
I was having other issues other than the news item being hidden, i don't really care about it "that much" its only news. That's beside the point though...
My apologies. Didn't mean to start anything. I know c5 is your baby.
All I'm saying is I re-did advanced permissions 3 times and re-did a fresh database install and re-entered content into my site 3 times because something wasn't working right. According to CC3381 I must not know the in's and out's to advanced permissions since I've been having such a problem. I respect that, kind of.
I've used advanced permissions since 08 and some funky things were going on, I would have put in a bug report but I didn't know what was happening specifically to do that.
I was having other issues other than the news item being hidden, i don't really care about it "that much" its only news. That's beside the point though...
My apologies. Didn't mean to start anything. I know c5 is your baby.
It's totally not a personal thing bryan.
I just want to be very careful about a feature like this that I know
major organizations depend on. I'm sure it's possible something is
funky with this news link on this drop down, but when someone months
from now googles "concrete5 advanced permissions" the last thing any
of us want is for them to see someone saying "oh those are jacked up,
don't use them" on these forums.
Like any complicated feature in software, I'm sure they can have weird
edge cases, but the idea that advanced permissions were broken before
and thats why we rethought them to have the new approach we did in Git
is simply inaccurate. The new approach ads a lot more flexibility and
power to a system that already worked.
Nothing but love. ;)
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
I just want to be very careful about a feature like this that I know
major organizations depend on. I'm sure it's possible something is
funky with this news link on this drop down, but when someone months
from now googles "concrete5 advanced permissions" the last thing any
of us want is for them to see someone saying "oh those are jacked up,
don't use them" on these forums.
Like any complicated feature in software, I'm sure they can have weird
edge cases, but the idea that advanced permissions were broken before
and thats why we rethought them to have the new approach we did in Git
is simply inaccurate. The new approach ads a lot more flexibility and
power to a system that already worked.
Nothing but love. ;)
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
word.
Must be you, As you can see from the picture the link is no longer displaying.
Have a Nice Day!
Have a Nice Day!
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