Ps, I just gave you a badge!

I'm pretty sure I answered a post or two from this guy helping him with some questions he had in the forums - how unappreciative. I've had nothing but good experiences with c5, the community, and I've been very pleased with every add-on I've purchased. Keep up the good work.

nah he just joined today and you can see from his profile this is his extent of participation.

hey i like free beer as much as the next guy, i just don't expect a nice IPA, with a side of chicken wings served by a cute waitress - for free.

Not that I wouldn't accept that... but I certainly wouldn't curse someone to hell over not getting it.

bleh. anyrate.

I'll be honest, and I'm not a troll, promise!

There is a bit of "sticker shock" at some of the module prices. I'm sure you guys have done the math, but I'm thinking if you lowered the price quite a bit you'd sell more volume or more.

There's a bunch of modules I wouldn't think twice about to spend $5 on, but the $20 and $50 are kinda pricey in my book.

But hey, just like anything else in the store, if it's too much I don't buy, it's not like I go to the cashier and complain about how expensive stuff is.

Anyway, mod and theme developers can obviously charge whatever they want, and the market will determine for them if it's the right price.

Obviously enough people are spending the $55 on them otherwise I'm sure you'd drop the price.

I will definitely agree with the sticker shock of some add ons. It is /very/ nice to have every add on that you purchase work with everything else; however, I bet everyone would sell more add ons and make more money if the add ons were priced similarly to Apps in Apple's App Store. People think a lot less about spending $1-$5 rather than $20-$50.

It would be interesting to see a poll of sales between people who's add on's are in the $0-$10 range versus $10+.

In any case, if you really want/need an add on, you are going to buy it--no matter what the price is. 'Nuff said.

I don't know of a single enterprise capable solution that DOESN'T have paid services and addons attached to it. Wow this guy is an idiot. I think he needs to watch Tony Robbins Breakthrough on Hulu.

Yeah, go suffer away, and enjoy your favorite CMS! You don't actually deserve any F/OSS if this is your attitude!

hahaha,

gotta love super retarded people

Thing I dont get is how he posted something nasty and stupid on the same day he signed up for an account...

That is just crazy.

I say... "don't let the screen door hit you on 'airse' on the way out"... I spent time trying to use Joomla and others and they are probably great "Open Source" programs,if you have the expertise and technical,AND patience to learn their "Open source"... but I, with little experience had our theater site up an running if just a couple of days.www.www.franklincommunityplayers.org.... And it is "FREE"....
Being a "FREE Market Capitalist" I laud those who take the core and spin all the bells and whistles on it for a fee. All seem to be within the sense of good price points.

He's obviously another member who was upset in the past and made a fake account to vent his frustrations.

I just lol'd at the troll badge he was awarded, that's a good one. :)

Can't Understand WHY this topic is again happening.

Developers need to eat!! If you like it need it, quit the complaining. These packages save time and money.

<shakin head and not gonna use my navy lanquage>

I'm a Concrete5 newbie but am an experienced web developer, programmer and copywriter.

I haven't purchased any addons yet, but the prices of the ones I have checked out seem quite reasonable. I would rather pay $15, $20, (or more) than spend many hours reinventing a solution for a problem or adding a function that some else has figured out and solved.

Thanks.

This thread is silly. The original post has been edited, which I can understand because it was pretty vile, but it's also pretty bad practice as it makes the whole thread seem insane. Generally editing past posts is considered bad etiquette anywhere on the web.

Some final thoughts:
go check out DotNetNuke.

very similar business model, and many of their add-ons are closer to $1,000 than $15. Frankly I hope we see more fully developed add-ons in our marketplace like Tony's real-estate block and I hope the price continues to go up. Comparing our prices to apple's app store is silly 1) we didn't sell you a $400 phone to begin with, 2) no one makes any money in there, just go do some research on all the failing app developers.. 3) its a buncha games you're talking about.

we're solving real business problems here, and while sure it may be a small business - we're trying to help people accomplish goals that involve money, we never said this was another blogging platform.

Let me just put this in the simplest terms I can before I close this tired thread:

1) The core is free - free as in go rebrand it and call it monkey juice free. Free-er than Joomla!, Drupal, or Wordpress as they're all GPL which has silly restrictions. The core also includes things like version control, advanced permissions and a whole slew of stuff you'd have to find as 3rd party add-ons for any of those other "free" competitors.

2) Half of the add-ons are free. Maybe slightly more or less, but certainly I think you'll continue to see a race to the bottom on things like image galleries. $15 is as cheap as its ever going because unless you're the size of apple you can't make money on a $1 or even $5 transaction. Paypal takes %3, a credit card merchant takes a percentage AND a .30 transaction fee. etc. This is why your local convenience store frowns at you when you bust out your credit card for that candy bar purchase. Legally they have to honor it, but many have little signs about minimum purchase none-the-less.

Moreover, if you're selling stuff at a loss (lets not forget support is included here) its not likely you're going to make it up on volume.

3) If you need solutions for your business, please be an adult about it. The most expensive add-on in our marketplace today is a dealer locator we made for $255. It lets you map multiple locations through a CSV file or by hand and then shows you how close they are to a zip code. If you want to pay a developer who knows what they're doing to build that from scratch, it's going to take them a better part of a day and it will cost more than $255. If you'd like one that works today with the promise that we'll make it work on your site if you can't, $255 is a bargain. If you can't afford $255 for a solution to map your locations, I posit your business probably doesn't have locations - or shouldn't.


If you don't see that, or there's voices going off in your head right now about how wrong I am on this - I encourage you to enjoy the free core.

Ya know, I'm certainly not some brilliant Harvard MBA with a encyclopedic knowledge of how all business works. I have run a web agency for over a decade, I've watched my dad run a manufacturing software shop for a few decades, and now I've led an open source project that went from 0 to 60k sites in 2 years. I'm sure we've made a lot of mistakes and will continue to make more, but I'm continually amazed that people come in here and somehow think we're just morons. As if we would have been able to build this CMS, build this supporting site, and not bothered to look up what open source means? For real? I mean I certainly don't want to come off like a douche that isn't open to new ideas - but why are all the new ideas continually "Uhh everything should be free." When does user:bGates come along and post "gee guys I think you could charge 10 times as much for everything in the marketplace and it'd still sell, maybe you'd even make some money to spend on marketing to like, you know.. grow." Not that we'd do that.. but still... you see my point. This isn't a discussion when the only opinions are consistently "everything should be free or a dollar." I'm all for wishful thinking, but common.

Ya know I just saw earlier this week that Google now has paid Apps available to folks like us that use their gMail/Documents stuff for business. So now THEY have a marketplace of commercial add-ons too.. Even the king of "free" needs to pay the bills.

ps: yes, the dealer locator sells. No, not a lot, but yes we've sold it a handful of times and that's nice for us. Personally I'd far rather support a few dozen installs of something than a few hundred if I'm going to get the same money out of it. If THAT doesn't make sense to you, my bet is you've never sold software - just bought it.

anyrate, that's enuf.