Performance issues C5 4.1.1
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New install, right out of the box, C5 4.1.1 is painfully slow. I am also comparing it to other CMS that I've installed on the same webserver. Should I be optimizing something? I am using the LazyDays theme.
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May I add, saving this forum post, took about 22 seconds. I've checked my connection to other non-cached web pages on different sites, they are fast loading. The C5 website pages load fast :). Does it use C5 4.1.1? There is no reference in the footer on version.
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May I add, saving this forum post, took about 22 seconds. I've checked my connection to other non-cached web pages on different sites, they are fast loading. The C5 website pages load fast :). Does it use C5 4.1.1? There is no reference in the footer on version.
For reasons unrelated to concrete5 core , our site is slow when posting messages. We are aware of this problem and have fixed it and will post an update that addresses this as soon as we can (it is waiting on some other updates)
Hi Andrew,
I find it interesting that the C5 organization does not use the latest production version of C5. I think it may be 2 versions behind.
Unfortunately, the recent production version is unacceptably too slow. This is possibly why the organization is not using it.
I find it interesting that the C5 organization does not use the latest production version of C5. I think it may be 2 versions behind.
Unfortunately, the recent production version is unacceptably too slow. This is possibly why the organization is not using it.
Hmm, that's strange, I run a multisite configuration and I see no issues with the latest release Rick, on the contrary my sites seem to load fast even with APC disable, are you on a shared server, VPS or Dedicated? did you played with the cache settings? did you try the install on a different web host to make sure this is not related to your current web host? what about locally?
Also I would recommend reading this post by Andrew that talks about optimizing a C5 install.
http://andrewembler.com/concrete5/5-easy-ways-to-speed-up-a-concret...
Cheers.
Also I would recommend reading this post by Andrew that talks about optimizing a C5 install.
http://andrewembler.com/concrete5/5-easy-ways-to-speed-up-a-concret...
Cheers.
As you can undoubtedly tell from the site that you're browsing, we have a lot of custom code on concrete5.org, which handles things like the marketplace, the forums, our karma system, our showcase system, our how-to system, our user profile system, the completely add-on billing, banking and reporting system, and more.
This is not a trivial application. That's why we take great care in updating the core that lies under concrete5.org, although we will patch it regularly.
That said, concrete 5.4.1 is quite a bit faster than the version we're running on concrete5.org. concrete5.org is also currently not even running any kind of opcode caching or special non-file-based caching layer, even though we recommend doing so, due to some server issues. That said, apart from certain message posting lag, concrete5.org should be decently fast, and will be faster still under 5.4.1.
This is not a trivial application. That's why we take great care in updating the core that lies under concrete5.org, although we will patch it regularly.
That said, concrete 5.4.1 is quite a bit faster than the version we're running on concrete5.org. concrete5.org is also currently not even running any kind of opcode caching or special non-file-based caching layer, even though we recommend doing so, due to some server issues. That said, apart from certain message posting lag, concrete5.org should be decently fast, and will be faster still under 5.4.1.
Hi mdzoidberg,
I am running on a VPS using the lastest version of which uses PHP server version 5.3 on XAMPP. Strange I am getting good page loads on other CMSs but not on C5. I do like very much the MIT licensing model and the fun factor of C5. Do not want to mention the other AJAXed scripts, which may not appropriate. But I am forced to use another script. Will be happy to show you in a private environment. I was astounded when I renamed my htdoc folder, installed another CMS and found the speed was very fast and C5 was extremely slow. I must have done something wrong. Page loads can extend to 20 seconds or longer if not cached.
I am running on a VPS using the lastest version of which uses PHP server version 5.3 on XAMPP. Strange I am getting good page loads on other CMSs but not on C5. I do like very much the MIT licensing model and the fun factor of C5. Do not want to mention the other AJAXed scripts, which may not appropriate. But I am forced to use another script. Will be happy to show you in a private environment. I was astounded when I renamed my htdoc folder, installed another CMS and found the speed was very fast and C5 was extremely slow. I must have done something wrong. Page loads can extend to 20 seconds or longer if not cached.
I have found 5.4.1 (and 5.4.1.1) to be noticeably faster than prior versions. For a while I had some pretty bad load times but since enabling APC caching, upgrading my server (from 256MB to 512MB VPS), and upgrading Concrete5 (this was a few versions ago), I've had no problems.
I'm curious when you say you're running on XAMPP -- unless that's a typo, that is a Windows application that encapsulates the LAMP stack for development purposes -- it is absolutely not intended to be used for production, and if you are in fact using that on your server I would suspect that has something to do with the slow performance. Also note that there are many security issues with running XAMPP on a production server -- seehttp://serverfault.com/questions/28984/xampp-for-production-and-ass...
I'm curious when you say you're running on XAMPP -- unless that's a typo, that is a Windows application that encapsulates the LAMP stack for development purposes -- it is absolutely not intended to be used for production, and if you are in fact using that on your server I would suspect that has something to do with the slow performance. Also note that there are many security issues with running XAMPP on a production server -- seehttp://serverfault.com/questions/28984/xampp-for-production-and-ass...
After securing down LAMPPs, C5 now runs much faster. Will report back when I find out the answer.
As any script becomes more mature, security increases. LAMMP server runs on several different environments. You must lock down security concerns like you do anything else.
As any script becomes more mature, security increases. LAMMP server runs on several different environments. You must lock down security concerns like you do anything else.
So guessing it hasn't be upgraded here yet.