themes & page confusion (3 themes and 9 pages)

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Hello, could someone please clear this up for me.
I have 3 installed themes, 2 free ones and a paid one. The 2 free ones have pages called left sidebar, rightsidebar full page.
the paid one also has left sidebar and right sidebar (plus others).
The paid one doesnt have a fullpage page.

When i go to add a new page, i see a selection of pages and the 3 themes displayed below them. I choose the paid theme, then choose fullpage.
do some adding of content and save page. but it doesnt look correct. so question is:

Q. Can i mix and match the pages from different themes but keep the overall style of my piad for theme?
Thanks :)

 
jordanlev replied on at Permalink Reply
jordanlev
This does get very confusing. To help make things a little clearer, what you're talking about aren't "pages" but instead "page types".

Here's the way it works:
Your C5 site has a certain number of page types set up. These page types can be different on every site, there is no "must have" page type or required page type. BUT what has happened is a lot of the themes in the marketplace (and the built-in themes that come pre-installed with C5) usually adhere to a standard of having a "left_sidebar", "right_sidebar", and "full" page type.

You can determine which page types are set up in your site by going to Dashboard -> Pages and Themes -> Page Types (it's a little grey link in the top navbar).

It doesn't matter what themes you do or don't have installed -- these are the page types available to you because these are the ones listed in that dashboard page.

Here's the tricky part: a page type on its own doesn't actually do anything or look like anything. It is up to the theme to make a page type look a certain way. As mentioned earlier, most themes from the marketplace include a template for the "left_sidebar", "right_sidebar", and "full" page types. But every theme also includes a "default" template that is used by C5 in the cases where a specific template doesn't match the page type.

So what is happening in your case is that you had a "full" page type installed, then you installed this new theme. The new theme doesn't have a template for "full" page type so C5 reverts to using the theme's "default" template, which doesn't look right to you. If you want a "full page" template, you will need to create your own or ask the author of the paid theme if you're missing something or if they could add it, or you will have to use a different theme.

Hope that helps clear things up.
gwp1971 replied on at Permalink Reply
Hello JordonLev
Thanks very much for your prompt reply.
If you can only use pages from the current installed theme, why doesn't Concrete disable from view the page types you cannot use.

i installed 2 free themes, then a paid one, how do i know that the piad one of left sidebar is the paid version or the free version ?

BTW, as i am about to totally wipe then reinstall concrete. can i remove all themes, even the default one, and their page types, then just install my one paid theme?
Thanks :)
jordanlev replied on at Permalink Best Answer Reply
jordanlev
Yeah, it gets really confusing. The thing is that you *can* use any page type with any theme -- it's just that if the theme doesn't include a specific design for a certain page type, then the theme's "default" design is used instead.

The reason for this is because Page Types have other uses besides just determining the design of the page (in more advanced sites where you're building your own theme). It's probably too confusing to get into at this point, though.

So let's assume you want to use the paid theme and not deal with the other two themes. The paid theme does not have a design for "Full Width" pages, so you need to remove that page type from you list of selections. You can do this by going to Dashboard -> Pages and Themes -> Page Types, clicking the "Edit" button next to "Full Width" (or whatever it's called), then at the bottom there should be a delete button. Note that if you have any pages in your site set to the "Full" page type, it won't let you delete it -- you'll have to go to those pages and change their page type to something else first, then come back and delete the page type.

Wiping out your site and re-installing it might help but it might not -- because if you check the "install sample content" box when installing C5 it will add a bunch of page types for you, including the full one. If that's the case, you'll have to go in and delete that page type as I outlined above. Or if you can uncheck the "install sample content" box during installation, you'll get a clean site with only one page type (called "Page"), and when you then install the paid theme I think it will ask you if you want to add some more page types that the theme has designs for.

Sorry this is so confusing -- wish I had a better way of explaining it!

Good luck.
gwp1971 replied on at Permalink Reply
Hello again
I did do c complete new install and unchecked the "add sample content"
it was much better. i also removed all 3 included thems and added the paid one. now the pages i have are just for my piad theme.
Job done :) thanks again for your help :)