A couple of things to check:

- Does the html generated validate? http://validator.w3.org/
- Have you tried adding a temporary background colour to some of the areas, to see if you can work out what is the cause of the space?
- If you are using Chrome, you can right click on something on a page and select 'Inspect Element'. Using the details in the inspector that pops up might be able to give you some clues.
- Did you edit your header.php element in the theme? One problem could be that it could be adding in an extra div programmatically when you are editing, but not closing the tag properly (or the other way around).

Good luck!

thanks for the suggestions. I have tried them all to no avail. I even tried taking the menu out of the header and placing it in the body of the site but it still gives that space...

any other suggestions?

Can you post a link to the site?

http://www.greaterrefugetemple.org/cms

This is what it looks like in Chrome (mac), same in Safari.

I'm not getting the space issue you've described.

wierd... it just seemed to have fixed itself....i have the screenshots to show i'm not crazy!

going back and using googles developer tools i found that the height is 44px when my css file sets it at 38px? what gives???