Godaddy out - looking for replacement

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After struggling with installation of C5 on GoDaddy, I have determined "life's to short", and I will be changing hosts.

FWIW I was able to work through the Unable to Connect issue, thanks to this forum. I then struggled with the infamous "mysql error: [1115: Unknown character set: 'DB_CHARSET'] in EXECUTE("SET NAMES 'DB_CHARSET' COLLATE 'DB_COLLATE'") , which is also mentioned in this forum. I could PROBABLY make it work, but I am TIRED of GoDaddy issues...

My question is - Has anyone had success with C5 on HostGator? I am considering them.

Thanks much!

 
myFullFlavour replied on at Permalink Reply
myFullFlavour
Stay away from HostGator - I've dealt with them in the past and just did a conversion for a site hosted on their platform.

Keyword for HG: Slow.

I'd recommend Concrete5 hosting.
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
FullFlavour -

I was looking to get a reseller package as I have a number of customers that I could host on it. Based on research, I am seeing Host Gator as one of the best, most reputable reseller hosts.

My concern was in trying to verify the C5 install and operation on Host Gator. Your answer isn't what I was hoping for (slow speed).

I want to use C5 as a simple CMS to let clients do minor updates/changes to their sites. I had thought that C5 was the best choice for that, but I might have to look elsewhere.

Any other opinions or experiences on Host Gator from anyone else?

Thanks!
jincmd replied on at Permalink Reply
jincmd
taste good?
joelpeebles replied on at Permalink Reply
I put together some c5 sites on HostGator. I did not go very far in terms of customization of them, but setup of the sites was pretty much a breeze. With the right hosting account, you get pretty much complete access to their cPanel, so the process was fairly painless. The only reason I cancelled the account was because The organization I was building the site for had a change of direction. I also liked the fact that their MySql is accessible remotely (using MySql browser, etc).
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
Joel,

Sounds like you had a pretty good experience. In reviewing hosts, Host Gator got good comments for up-time, tools (like cPanel), and customer service. The Reseller packages get particularly good press.

Good to hear you had a good experience. Any issues with speed and C5?

Thanks!
goldfish replied on at Permalink Reply
goldfish
I've had good experiences with Hostgator shared hosting for about 6 years with everything except C5 hosting. Speed has been tolerable for C5 sites where the pages are cached, but if you have any computations (randomized content, user specific content,etc), I've had page loads in 5-30 second range on HG. C5 Hosting has been noticeably faster.
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
Goldfish,

How many accounts do you have hosted on the shared plan (is it reseller)? All static sites or any heavier sites with DB activity?
Thanks for your evaluation.
goldfish replied on at Permalink Best Answer Reply
goldfish
I have a HG reseller account with about 10 C5 sites, all static brochureware. Anything more complicated I've had to move to a better server. It really is a server resource issue - the HG account has performed wonderfully with WordPress, static, and custom PHP sites for years. Off peak hours, the HG hosted C5 sites perform okay, but they can be painfully slow in the middle of the day.

C5's hosting performs very well, and I'm happy to give up hosting profit as a way of supporting C5's continued awesomeness. That said I'd be a lot happier with C5's hosting if 1) There were standard 24/7 phone support, and 2) A reseller plan so I could migrate a number of pro-bono / starving artist sites that get negligible traffic to C5 in a very low cost hosting environment with decent performance. Setting up a dedicated box or VPS for all my C5 sites is probably the answer for now.
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
Goldfish,
Most of my sites will be/are static and should be ok. I'm a bit concerned about the slower performance on HG during peak hours. Not sure if another reseller shared host would be any different though.

I'm just getting started and a VPS would be overkill at this point, but I'm curious who you would recommend for one?

Thanks for your input.
joelpeebles replied on at Permalink Reply
goldfish seems to have a good evaluation of the hostgator service. Unfortunately I did notice that speed of c5 on hostgator was slightly slower. And again, I agree, c5 hosting actually was a bit faster.
myFullFlavour replied on at Permalink Reply
myFullFlavour
Concrete5.org Hosting: Pretty much as fast as Concrete5 gets
Host Gator Shared Hosting: Pretty much as slow as Concrete5 gets
senshidigital replied on at Permalink Reply
senshidigital
If your in the UK I highly recommendhttp://www.zen.co.uk. We have around 30 sites with them and never had a problem. Support are on the ball too.
hbartlett replied on at Permalink Reply
hbartlett
I too have been doing a bunch of research on reseller accounts. As has been pointed out before, reseller accounts are really just shared hosting with additional features. That said, there are differences between shared hosting companies.

I've heard/read good and bad about HostGator. I've looked into dozens of other reseller providers. I had heard that A2 hosting has APC enabled which apparently makes a big difference with C5. I also heard really good things about Green Geeks. However, after everything I read, Stablehost looks like a really good bet for low cost reseller hosting. They don't have 'unlimited' space or bandwidth, which is a good thing in my books. The service is a bit more bare bones than some of the others (no 'free' eNom account, no 'free' billing system, etc.), which is fine by me. They also use Litespeed for the web server, unknown if that will make a difference with C5, but theoretically it should. There's also no contracts or anything.

To really go pro, you need a dedicated server that you control. There's no other way around it. That is my plan for a bit later on, for now I need to build up the reseller accounts first. I'm thinking I might sign up with Stablehost today and get that going. I'll report back here on how they work with C5 sites.
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
Thanks for the feedback. I'll take a look at Stablehost and A2.

The enom and billing system are nice features that I was looking forward to though...

I'm also trying to find a suitable alternative to C5... but there doesn't seem to be anything that compares.

Thanks for your feedback.
hbartlett replied on at Permalink Reply
hbartlett
Just an update - I signed up with Stablehost, and so far I'm very pleased. Their servers are fast, their service is good. Maybe it's the Lightspeed server making the difference, or maybe they just don't overload their servers, I don't know, but C5 is very snappy, even the dashboard. Night and day difference over Hostpapa, who were always a good company to deal with too, just C5 was slow there it seemed.

You can also choose to use USA or Europe servers, and can test each to see which is faster for you.
munman replied on at Permalink Reply
Stablehost definitely looks promising. I'm doing some research on them, but they look pretty strong.
Thanks for the info.
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j1000 replied on at Permalink Reply
@davidmamal43 - Had been looking into Bluehost but have decided not to for a couple of reasons, one of which is you. When you cross post so much (11 identical messages as far as i can see), it raises red flags for me. Why would someone do this if they weren't a shill for Bluehost?

A quick google search of Bluehost brought up a bunch of really negative comments to the way a major power outage was handled by Bluehost in Septemeber. I encourage anyone considering Bluehost to do a quick Google search.

Do your company a favor and don't post crap like this. It'll help restore some semblance of credibility.
clintre replied on at Permalink Reply
clintre
I would say run, not walk from Bluehost. They are notorious through the hosting industry for over selling their servers.

The are owned by EIG and are one of the so called "un-limited" providers meaning they set no limits on space and bandwidth. What this leads to is abuse and over-stretched resources.

Their servers are slow for anything more than a basic site. I have moved several clients that had been hosted by them, prior to me working with them, due to extremely bad experience.

Hosts like Hostgator and Bluehost are kind of like the Walmart's of the hosting world.

Personally I stick to VPS myself mainly because I have more control over my sandbox.