New Theme Not showing in Dashboard

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Tried to make a custom theme and I uploaded a folder with appropriate files to the /themes directory. Went to my dashboard, refreshed my screen, and it didn't show up.

Thinking I messed up the instructions I copied the "default" theme to a new folder named "test" and did a browser refresh and I still only see the two original themes that came with the install (Plain Yogurt & Green Salad).

Any ideas what's wrong ?

Thx,
Chuck

chuckv
 
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
you're probably messing around in /concrete/themes which is core stuff. you should now be in /themes
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Thanks Frz,

Tell me, Is there an issue with the 5.3.2 package ? When installing I had problems as the install stopped because there was no "packages" directory. Once I manually created a "packages" directory (and deleted the database tables, I ran install again and then got an install error that the "job" directory was not found. I duplicated what I did with the packages folder and created a "jobs" directory (in the root) and proceeded with my install successfully. Now the error with the "templates" folder. The install didn't create an empty "themes" folder so I assumed to use the one under the "Concrete" folder. (no word of this in any tutorial).

Shouldn't the install routine be creating these empty folders on the fly for a smooth install ??

Chuck

PS: Like what I see so far. Hope I can get by with what you all have for docs available.
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
you should have these directories in your install I think, a package shouldn't have to create them. What theme are you trying to install?
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Frz,

I could have been more specific. There are two occasions that I had a problem.

#1) On the initial install were the install routine didn't create an empty "packages" and "jobs" folder in the root directory. I had to manually create these to continue the install successfully.

#2) After the install, as I began to get familiar with Concrete5, I decided to install a new Theme to see how easy it would be. After I couldn't get them to install you mentioned I put my Theme folder down one level "/concrete/themes" which you stated were the "core files". I then had to create a root directory called "themes" to put the new theme into so I could install it properly.

My question: shouldn't the 5.3.2 package have created these 3 folders in the root (packages, jobs, themes) so I wouldn't have had to do it manually, and better still stumble through forums, wasting folks time trying to determine why I was having so much trouble in lieu of this being undocumented (as far as I could see). Just wondered if this was an oversight and or a bug that could/should be corrected. Or am I the only one with such problems.

Just trying to help others who might have this problem.

Thanks again for your quick replies.

Regards,
Chuck
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
when i download the 5.3.2 package from sourceforge, those directories are already where they need to be.

you should never be making anything inside of /concrete, if anything you should be making copies OUTSIDE of /concrete...

it sounds like something is seriously off with your install
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Thanks,

I'll delete my install and try again (3rd time). Can't remember if I downloaded from your site or Sourceforge (or directed there from your site). I'm assuming there's only one download place so I can't get the wrong package ?

I'll try again and post back with my results.

Thanks for your help.
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Frz (or others)

Ok, started with a squeaky clean install.

Unzipped to a folder called concrete5 and FTP'd to my /public_html/ folder. Change appropriate permissions to writable.

When I accessed from my browser the Install page appeared and under the "Test Requirements" dialog, for the following entry:

"Web Server Access to Files and Configuration Directories" I get the "red" negative sign with a question mark. Expanding the question mark says the following:

"The config/, packages/ and files/ directories must be writable by your web server." ---- same problem on original install.


Ok so now I take a look at my /concrete5/ directory in the root of my site and I only see a "config/" & "files/" folder (both 755) but NO "packages/" folder. What gives ? Frz said I shouldn't have to add anything manually in my install folder ?

NOTE: If I manually put the "package/" folder in my "concrete5" install folder the red "-" goes away.

What gives ???

Continuing on with the install gives me the same type of error regarding the "jobs/" folder and I end up having to manually create a folder named "jobs" in the base install folder before I can proceed.

HELP, HELP,

thx,
Chuck
ryan replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
ryan
I just downloaded & verified the contents of the zip file on sourceforge (see attached screenshot)

That's what a directory listing of concrete unpacked in your web-root should look like.

Ryan
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
chuckv
Ryan,

Thanks for the screen capture. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words !

Please note per my attached screen shot that something is amiss here. As unpacked you have more in the root directory than I do ???

I use WinZip to unpack the install package, checking off to preserve the file folder structure and per the attached image this is what I get.

Can you explain this ? Should I dump all the files together to try and approximate the structure you have before I begin the install ?

Thanks much for your help.

Chuck
ryan replied on at Permalink Reply
ryan
Can anyone else duplicate this problem using winzip on vista or xp?

Easiest fix may to be just create the folders to match my screenshot.

Another way would be to try another zip utility. I did some quick searches and found others having the same problem with empty folders with winzip.
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Thanks Ryan,

Thought I was going crazy with this and just couldn't understand why I couldn't find other similar posts about this problem. That screen shot was a savior.

Will try other utilities to see what happens. Looks like it's time to dump WinZip.

Now I can start to dig in and find out what Concrete5 is all about !!!

Thx,
C~
bcarone replied on at Permalink Reply
bcarone
I just downloaded 5.3.2 and unzipped using ZipGenius. Then uploaded to a shared hosting plan for client and all I had to do was CHMOD required folders/files as the install screen says. I am assuming your DB is cool since you didn't mention it.

If you created a theme and didn't make it a package and you uploaded your theme to the sitename/themes directory you should be ok. If you didn't make it as a package and put it there, you won't see it.

Now having said that, I haven't made a package theme yet tho I have just loaded the themes in the above directory (again sitename/themes NOT NOT NOT sitename/concrete/themes).

Hope that helps
Bill
and yes I am working on a WinBlows machine
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
Thanks Bill,

Just got home from work and tried WinRAR and it worked beautifully. Hopefully the folks at Concrete5 will make some note on the Install Page not to use WinZip.

Wonder how many folks had problems using WinZip and just gave up rather than taking the time to post to the forums.

Thanks again all for taking the time to respond to my questions.

Chuck
ryan replied on at Permalink Reply
ryan
It may be a good idea for us to put a small text file in each folder so winzip doesn't decide our empty folders aren't worth unpacking.

There's allot of folks out there that'll be unpacking with windows/winzip
andrew replied on at Permalink Reply
andrew
I'm amazed that an archiving tool would do such a thing.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention - I never would have thought about this as being a culprit. We can alert people in the future (as well as potentially include some dummy files in these root folders to ensure that they get created.)
celebr replied on at Permalink Reply
I'm having the exact same problem but I used a "simple script" installation through my Hostmonster account. I just checked with them and they use Gzip on Linux machines. Does anyone have any advice on getting the Simple Scripts install to work properly?
celebr replied on at Permalink Reply
In case it helps anyone else... I installed version 5.3.1.1 through Simple Scripts and now all the folders are in place. Adding themes is no longer broken.
thewebshop replied on at Permalink Reply
thewebshop
Yes I had the same issue with a Simple Scripts install at Bluehost.com. An install of 5.3.2 did not install all the correct files. I then tried an install of 5.3.1.1 as celebr above did - this worked fine.

I then thought I'd try an upgrade from 5.3.1.1 to 5.3.2 - no good, the Dashboard wouldnt work correctly. :-(

So I'm obviously not destined (at the moment) to get to try 5.3.2... which I really wanted for the Suckerfish menu's.

Any chance you guys can fix up the installer so that these issues dont occur?
ryan replied on at Permalink Reply
ryan
Seems to me that it's a problem with simple sripts & not concrete.

I'll shoot them an email and see if they can get it sorted out.
sbfowler replied on at Permalink Reply
sbfowler
I tried to install C5 at bluehost using simplescripts but it did not work: files/folders were not correct. I told bluehost about the problem but got nowhere with them. I also sent a couple emails to simplescripts directly and never even got a reply.

I ended up installing it myself following the instructions listed at concrete5.
mek113 replied on at Permalink Reply
I'm using Hostmonster and uploaded Concrete5 using Simple Scripts as well. Used Winzip to extract files - no packages folder.

After reading this forum, I FTP'd the entire zip file to the server and used their extract feature but still no packages folder.

Thought I would try adding a packages folder myself but wanted to ask what the correct folder structure should be. I'm trying out the "touching" theme. The folder structure I'm seeing is theme_touching > themes folder with a .php and .png file > touching folder > then all the vital files.

I also came across an error message at one point in my installing efforts that said the files should be in the "helper" folder. I can't recreate that message now but thought I'd throw that out there.
chuckv replied on at Permalink Reply
chuckv
I used WinRAR to unzip the package and the appropriate folders were in the correct place.

http://www.win-rar.com/download.html...

Chuck
Warll replied on at Permalink Reply
I myself would suggest 7-zip since it is FOSS and worked just fine with my C5 install. It has all the features of Winrar and well did I mention it is open source?

http://www.7-zip.org/
Styves replied on at Permalink Reply
Styves
Warll is right, Free Open source and always function correctly.
You should suggest to the windows user to use it firstly.

Cheers!
mek113 replied on at Permalink Reply
I tried out the 7-zip and I'm getting the same folders/files that I got with WinZip. Looks like my issue may be with the Simple Scripts install from Hostmonster. I'm going to uninstall and see what I can do with the 5.3.1 version.
mek113 replied on at Permalink Reply
Installed v.5.3.1.1. through Simple Scripts and yes, the upload new themes works beautifully just like others that tried it. But my concern now is what happens when I want to upgrade? Ryan, did Simple Scripts get back to you about fixing the problem? I've never set up a database before so I'm afraid to try installing through Sourceforge. I'd rather exhaust my options with SimpleScripts first.
thewebshop replied on at Permalink Reply
thewebshop
In my experience with Bluehost, a Simple Scripts update to 5.3.2 stuffed the original 5.3.1 install, so I wouldnt suggest an upgrade using Simple Scripts... sorry mek113.

ryan any luck with adding dummy/empty txt files to the empty directories to force Winzip/Simple Scripts/etc to create these directories at the point of unzipping them?
mek113 replied on at Permalink Reply
I installed v 5.3.1.1 through SimpleScripts in Hostmonster. Installed a couple of themes, thus adding content to the empty folders we've been having a problem with. Checked the dashboard to be sure everything was working correctly. Checked my folder structure in the CPanel. Then upgraded to v5.3.2 through SimpleScripts, and so far so good!! Folder structure is intact. The themes I originally installed are still there and I was able to install another theme.
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
the lovely team at simplescripts seems unwilling to reply to my daily contacts through their form.. pretty frustrating.